(0:00) Viewer discretion advised. (0:05) The morning draped Manhattan in a fragile golden light, (0:09) a deceptive calm whispering through the bustling streets. (0:14) Coffee cups steamed in hurried hands, (0:18) taxis hummed, and the city pulsed with its usual restless energy. (0:23) Amid the crowd, a young woman paused, (0:26) her breath catching as a low, guttural roar swelled above the urban din. (0:33) It was no ordinary sound. (0:35) It clawed at the air, growing louder, closer, unnatural. (0:41) Her pulse quickened, a chill prickling her skin as she tilted her head skyward, (0:47) eyes locking onto a glint of metal slicing through the blue sky, (0:52) hurtling toward the tower silhouette ahead. (0:56) Things are about to get strange. (1:21) Hello all you ghouls and goblins. (1:23) Welcome to ConspiriWeird. (1:25) My name is Molly and with me is my co-host slash husband slash graphic designer (1:30) slash producer slash audio engineer (1:34) Josh. (1:35) Yo. (1:38) Snack time. (1:40) I'm not doing snacks because I don't feel good. (1:43) It's almost bedtime. (1:44) It's past my bedtime. (1:46) I already brushed my teeth so no snacks for me. (1:48) I already took my drug so I might fall asleep halfway through this. (1:52) I hope not. (1:53) No you won't. (1:53) Because this is one of my favorite conspiracy theories of all time which is 9-11. (2:01) Favorite as in there's a lot of theories. (2:04) There's a lot of theories. (2:05) Not favorite as in like the event itself. (2:07) The event itself but favorite because there's a lot of theories behind it. (2:12) It's also our oldest birthday. (2:15) Our oldest was born on 9-11 or not the day of 9-11. (2:19) Okay so I was gonna save it as a fun fact towards the end but (2:25) our oldest was born on 9-11 just not 9-11 2001. (2:29) It was born in 2013. (2:30) Yes. (2:30) Fun fact. (2:32) So about 12 years later on that day something good happened but anyway. (2:38) So what we're gonna do first is we're gonna go through the events of 9-11 in chronological order (2:45) and all these times are in eastern standard time. (2:48) New York time. (2:49) New York time. (2:49) We're in Florida so it's easy for us. (2:52) Let's go. (2:53) Ready? (2:55) Buckle in. (2:58) 7 50 a.m. (3:00) American Airlines flight 11 a Boeing 767 with 92 people on board (3:06) takes off from Boston's Logan International Airport. (3:11) They were going to Los Angeles. (3:13) 8 14 a.m. (3:15) United Airlines flight 175 a Boeing 767 with 65 people on board (3:21) deports Boston also bound for Los Angeles. (3:26) 8 19. (3:28) Five minutes later. (3:29) Flight attendants on flight 11 alert ground personnel of the hijacking (3:34) prompting American Airlines to notify the FBI. (3:41) 8 20 a.m. (3:42) American Airlines flight 77 a Boeing 757 with 64 people on it (3:48) takes off from Dole's International Airport outside of Washington D.C. (3:53) also headed for Los Angeles. (3:55) Why are all these places? (3:57) Okay, whatever. (3:59) 8 24 a.m. (4:01) Hijacker Mohammed Adda. (4:03) I apologize if I'm saying these wrong. (4:05) No apologies for these people. (4:08) I know for these people they're horrible, horrible people, (4:11) but you also need to respect people's whatever. (4:14) I don't care. (4:17) I'm too tired to hear right now. (4:21) Listen, we're recording this on a high pain day for me. (4:24) We all know I have rheumatoid arthritis. (4:26) I'm in pain, so we're just going with it. (4:29) Going with it. (4:30) Mohammed Adda makes the first of two accidental transmissions (4:34) from flight 11 to ground control, (4:36) likely attempting to address a plane's cabin. (4:40) 8 40 a.m. (4:43) Traffic air traffic controllers at the Federal Aviation Administration or the FAA (4:50) alert NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector or NEADS (4:54) about the suspected hijacking of flight 11. (4:57) NEADS orders the fighter jets of Cape Cod's Otis Air National Guard Base (5:02) to locate the plane, but they are not airborne before the crash. (5:07) United Airlines flight 93, a Boeing 757 with 44 people (5:12) departs Newark International Airport for San Francisco. (5:16) It is delayed from its scheduled 8 o'clock a.m. takeoff. (5:22) Flight 11 crashes into the North Tower. (5:26) 8 46 a.m. (5:28) Mohammed Adda and other hijackers crash American Airlines flight 11 (5:32) into floors 93 through 99 of the World Trade Center's North Tower, (5:38) killing everyone on board and hundreds inside the building. (5:43) At 8 47, the FDNY and NYPD units dispatch to the World Trade Center (5:50) while Port Authority police begin evacuating the North Tower. (5:56) 8 50, White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card informs President George W. Bush, (6:03) then visiting an elementary school in Sarasota, Florida, of the World Trade Center crash. (6:10) So weird he was in Florida. (6:13) Near me. (6:16) 9 0 2 a.m. (6:17) Port Authority officials, after initially advising South Tower tenants to stay put, (6:22) broadcast evacuation orders for both towers via the public address system. (6:28) An estimated 10,000 to 14,000 people are already attempting to evacuate. (6:35) Flight 175 crashes into South Tower. (6:40) 9 0 3 a.m. (6:42) Hijackers crash United Airlines flight 175 into floors 75 to 85 of the World Trade Center's (6:49) South Tower, killing everyone on board and hundreds inside. (6:53) At 9 0 8 a.m., the FAA bans all flights to New York City or through its airspace. (7:01) At 9 21 a.m., the Port Authority closes all bridges and tunnels to New York City (7:06) and surrounding areas. (7:09) 9 24, the FAA notifies needs of the suspected hijacking of flight 77 (7:17) after crew and passengers alert family members on the ground. (7:22) And at 9 31 a.m. from Florida, President Bush calls the events in New York an apparent (7:28) terrorist attack on our country. (7:32) Flight 77 crashes into the Pentagon. (7:35) 9 37 a.m. (7:38) Hijackers crash flight 77 into Pentagon's Western Facade, (7:42) killing 59 on board and 125 military and civilian personnel inside. (7:49) 9 42 a.m., the FAA grounds all flights over the bound over (7:56) or bound for the continental U.S., a historic first. (8:00) Over the next few hours, approximately 4500 commercial (8:04) and private planes land at airports in the U.S. and Canada. (8:09) 9 45 a.m., amid rumors of further attacks, the White House, (8:14) U.S. Capitol and other landmarks and public spaces are evacuated. (8:19) 9 59 a.m., the South Tower collapses. (8:24) Flight 93 passengers fight back plane crashes and field at 10 7 a.m. (8:32) after passengers and crew on flight 93 learn of the New York and Washington attacks via phone calls. (8:39) They attempt to retake the plane. (8:41) Hijackers crash it into a field in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, killing all 40 on board. (8:49) 10 28 a.m. (8:50) the North Tower collapses 102 minutes after being struck by flight 11. (8:57) 11 a.m., Mayor Rudolph Giuliani orders the evacuation of lower Manhattan south of Canal (9:04) Street, impacting over a million residents, workers and tourists as rescue efforts continue (9:10) at the World Trade Center site. (9:13) 1 p.m. at Bake (9:16) Bakersdale, Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana, (9:20) President Bush announces that U.S. military forces are on high alert worldwide. (9:26) 2 51 p.m., the U.S. Navy dispatches missile destroyers to New York and Washington, D.C. (9:33) 5 20 p.m., the 47 story 7 World Trade Center collapses after burning for hours. (9:40) Evacuated earlier, it had no casualties, but the collapse forces rescue workers to flee. (9:46) 6 58 p.m., President Bush returns to the White House after stops at military bases (9:53) in Nebraska and Louisiana. (9:56) 9 11 Commission Report and Aftermath. (10:00) July 22nd, 2004, the 9 11 Commission Report is released, including airport security footage (10:07) of hijackers, classified documents and cockpit recordings from Flight 93, concluding that (10:14) all 19 hijackers were Al-Qaeda members. (10:19) October 17th, 2006, a federal judge rejects New York City's motion to dismiss lawsuits (10:26) from first responders seeking health compensation. (10:31) January 2nd, 2011, President Barack Obama signs the James Zadroga 9-11 Health and Compensation (10:39) Act, renewing and expanding the victim compensation fund. (10:44) May 2nd, 2011, Osama bin Laden is killed by U.S. Navy SEALs. (10:51) This is 10 years later, or almost just about 10 years later. (10:55) May 15th, 2014, the National September 11th Memorial and Museum is dedicated in Lower (11:04) Manhattan. (11:06) November 3rd, 2014, One World Trade Center officially opens on the site of the Twin Towers. (11:14) July 29th, 2019, President Donald Trump signs legislation authorizing the victim compensation (11:22) fund through 2092. (11:25) August 30th, 2019, a U.S. military court judge in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba sets a January 11th, (11:34) 2021 trial date for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four others charged with plotting 9-11. (11:42) The trial was later postponed due to COVID-19. (11:45) July 31st, 2022, Ayman al-Zawahiri, a key 9-11 planner and al-Qaeda leader after bin (11:58) Laden, is killed in a U.S. drone strike in Kabul, Afghanistan. (12:03) The New York 9-11 attacks have sparked numerous conspiracy theories, none backed by credible (12:09) evidence, yet they continue to circulate in public discourse. (12:13) Here is a wild list that we will go over. (12:17) Might not cover all of them, but there are so many out there. (12:22) Government foreknowledge. (12:23) Some theorists allege U.S. officials knew of the attacks in advance and allowed them (12:31) to succeed to further political goals. (12:35) Former British Minister Michael Meacher claimed the U.S. deliberately failed to act. (12:42) The 9-11 Commission report found no evidence of foreknowledge, attributing the attacks (12:49) solely to al-Qaeda. (12:50) If they didn't plan the attack, the government knew about it beforehand and did nothing (12:56) so that they could go to a war with Iraq and Afghanistan to get oil. (13:02) Insider trading allegations. (13:04) In the days before 9-11, an unusual surge in put options on American and United Airlines (13:13) stocks fueled speculation of insider trading. (13:18) Theorists suggest traders were tipped off, profiting off of the tragedy. (13:24) The Securities and Exchange Commission's investigation found no link to the attacks, (13:29) including after probing Osama bin Laden as a suspect. (13:34) Air defense stand down. (13:36) Despite NORAD's protocol to intercept hijacked planes, skeptics claim the agency was ordered (13:43) to stand down. (13:45) Citing the lack of fighter jet response, NORAD reported being notified too late to intercept, (13:53) a timeline verified by the 9-11 Commission. (13:57) Pentagon Missile Theory. (14:00) Some assert the Pentagon was struck by a missile or a military aircraft, not Flight 77, pointing (14:07) to the small impact hole in limited video evidence. (14:12) Official reports backed by wreckage flight data and eyewitness accounts confirm the commercial (14:18) jet's crash. (14:19) I will say I do believe that one a little bit as well myself. (14:23) I have seen the footage, watched it slo-mo, heard what people said, and eyewitnesses, (14:32) and I could see where they think it didn't happen. (14:36) Not saying that it didn't happen. (14:38) I'm just saying I can see where they're coming from. (14:40) You can believe that one. (14:40) I can believe that one. (14:42) Controlled demolition of the Twin Towers. (14:45) I've heard this one a lot. (14:46) Theorists argue the Twin Towers collapse resembled a controlled demolition with explosives (14:53) planted in advance. (14:56) Witnesses reported hearing explosions and skeptics claimed jet fuel couldn't melt steel (15:02) frames. (15:04) NIST's investigation concluded fire and structural damage caused the collapses with no evidence (15:12) of explosives. (15:14) Building 7 demolition, which this one is another one I believe in, the collapse of World (15:21) Trade Center 7, Building 7, hours after the Twin Towers is cited as evidence of a deliberate (15:27) demolition. (15:29) A symmetrical fall suggests explosives to some. (15:35) NIST's 2008 report attributed the collapse to fire-induced structure failure, finding (15:41) no signs of explosives. (15:45) Do you want to know what was in that building? (15:47) Highly classified documents that people weren't allowed to have access to. (15:52) All gone. (15:54) So that's one that I do believe in. (15:56) What were y'all hiding? (15:57) Aliens? (15:59) Here's a crazy one. (16:03) Here's a phrase y'all like. (16:05) The No Planes Theory. (16:08) A fringe claim alleges no planes hit the World Trade Center or Pentagon, with impacts faked (16:16) using holograms, missiles, or CGI. (16:21) Extensive eyewitness accounts, plane wreckage, and air traffic records confirm the plane's (16:27) existence, debunking the theory. (16:30) Like who's really a giant hologram? (16:32) In broad daylight? (16:34) Like that's, it's, no. (16:36) I don't even think that's a hologram. (16:37) I don't think we have the technology now to do that. (16:40) Let alone 2001. (16:42) People are dumb. (16:44) Yeah. (16:44) Was Spiderman even that one? (16:46) Okay. (16:49) CIA or U.S. government orchestrate... (16:57) Orchestration? (16:58) There we go. (16:59) Some, my drugs are kicking in. (17:02) Some allege that the attacks were a false flag operation by the CIA or U.S. government to (17:08) justify wars in Afghanistan and Iraq or expand surveillance. (17:13) Told you. (17:15) No credible evidence supports this. (17:18) You okay? (17:19) With the 9-11 Commission linking the attacks solely to Al Qaeda's planning. (17:24) That's what they want you to know. (17:27) That's what they want you to believe. (17:30) Flight 93 staged. (17:33) No. (17:34) Theorists speculate flight 93 was shot down or landed safely with passengers murdered or (17:40) relocated. (17:41) The 9-11 Commission confirmed passengers attempt to retake the plane leading to its crash based (17:47) on cockpit recordings and wreckage analysis. (17:51) And yeah, this 9-11 Commission will have a link for it somewhere that you can, you can (17:59) check it out. (17:59) But there is a lot of information to unpack on there. (18:03) So definitely check it out. (18:06) Hijacker passport survival. (18:11) The Loose Change documentary questioned how hijackers passports survived the fiery crashes, (18:18) arguing paper IDs could not withstand explosions that destroyed buildings. (18:24) Investigators note lightweight items like passports were recovered among debris consistent (18:30) with plane crash investigations. (18:33) Passed. (18:39) Fake cell phone calls. (18:44) Skeptics doubt calls made from hijacked planes claiming cell phones couldn't function at (18:51) high altitudes. (18:52) One call where a passenger uses full name raised further questions. (18:58) The 9-11 Commission verified most calls used air phones and cell phone connectivity was (19:05) possible in 2001 at lower altitudes. (19:12) Do you want to say the next one, babe? (19:16) Sure. (19:17) Since it's part of your people. (19:19) No, actually, you go ahead. (19:21) You just do that. (19:22) You start that one. (19:25) Anti-Semitic foreknowledge myth. (19:28) An offensive theory claims Jewish employees were warned to avoid the World Trade Center (19:33) and implying complicity debunked by the BBC. (19:37) Data shows that up to 400 Jewish victims were among the 2071 victims at the World Trade (19:43) Center, aligning with the New York City's demographic. (19:47) No evidence supports involvement beyond Al-Qaeda. (19:51) How do you? (19:52) Frankly, I take some offense at this one. (19:55) Because your dad's side is Jewish. (19:56) But if the Jews in New York were anything like my dearly past Jewish grandmother from (20:01) New York, they would have informed other people. (20:05) It would have been a mixture of, you know, concern out of concern and some gossip, but (20:12) good intention, nevertheless. (20:16) Hidden black box recordings. (20:19) Of the four black boxes, there were three recovered, but only one yielded audible data (20:28) shared with victims' families in 2002. (20:31) The secrecy sparked cover-up theories because they didn't actually share that publicly. (20:38) The FBI and NTSB maintained the recordings corroborated official accounts with no evidence (20:48) of tampering. (20:52) Fake bin Laden tapes. (20:55) Osama bin Laden initially denied involvement, but later claimed responsibility in recordings. (21:02) Skeptics argue those were fabricated, citing his financial ties or alleged U.S. connections. (21:11) The 9-11 Commission authenticated the tapes, confirming Al-Qaeda's roles. (21:18) So, not so fun fact, Josh is going to go over all of these. (21:26) Okay. (21:28) The FBI investigated Flight Safety Academy in Vero Beach, Florida. (21:32) Which is one town over from us. (21:34) After claims that some hijackers trained there. (21:38) Two Arab students were enrolled, but the investigation confirmed they were not involved (21:43) in the attacks, clearing the Academy of any connection. (21:48) This is an interesting one. (21:50) The Queen's Guard broke tradition. (21:53) In a rare gesture, the band of the Coldstream Guards at Buckingham Palace in London played (22:02) the U.S. National Anthem, the Star-Spangled Banner, during the Changing of the Guard ceremony (22:10) on September 13, 2001, as a tribute to the victims. (22:17) This was one of the few times in history that a foreign anthem was performed at the palace, (22:23) reflecting global solidarity. (22:27) That's really sweet. (22:29) Yeah. (22:30) A miracle escape. (22:32) Pascual Buzelli, a structural engineer, survived the collapse of the North Tower by riding (22:38) down 15 stories in a section of the stairwell that remained partially intact. (22:44) Found atop the rubble with only minor injuries, his survival, known as the Surfer's Miracle, (22:52) baffled rescuers and engineers alike. (22:55) I can only imagine this guy just, you know, fearing for his life, but surfing down these (23:05) stairs. (23:06) And a message from the sky. (23:10) On 9-11, a German air traffic controller at Shannon Airport in Ireland, handling diverted (23:17) U.S.-bound flights, received a message from one pilot. (23:22) Tell the world we are okay, but we are not coming home today. (23:28) This poignant transmission captured the chaos and uncertainty faced by thousands of stranded (23:35) passengers. (23:36) So heartbreaking. (23:38) At least those people were safe. (23:40) Yeah. (23:41) So, we're both going to answer all of these questions, okay? (23:47) Where were you during 9-11 and what were you doing? (23:51) We've talked about this numerous times. (23:53) I, yeah, but not on microphone. (23:56) Yeah. (23:56) I was... (23:58) It's kind of like that question of where were you when JFK got killed with her parents. (24:02) But this is our... (24:03) This is our JFK. (24:04) This is where... (24:05) So, I was... (24:09) I'd have to do the math, but I was in gym class and we were changing back into our regular (24:17) school clothes and in the locker room. (24:21) And then it just started taking a long time before we swapped classes until finally somebody (24:29) like the teacher said something about an emergency going on. (24:33) And my mother actually ended up picking me up from school that day because she thought (24:38) maybe the planes would come crashing into the schools. (24:41) No one knew what was going on. (24:43) Nobody knew. (24:43) It was chaos. (24:46) What were you doing? (24:48) I was 11 during 9-11. (24:53) I remember I was at lunch and I was on the volleyball team. (24:59) And the day before I missed practice because I forgot my clothes. (25:03) So, I walked up to my... (25:06) Find my coach who was also my science teacher to like say like, sorry, I forgot about my (25:13) clothes and practice and stuff. (25:15) And there were a few teachers watching the news and I didn't realize it's a news. (25:21) It was the news and we left it. (25:24) I'm like, it's not fair that they get to watch movies while we're like outside in the heat. (25:28) Like eating lunch. (25:30) I was like complaining. (25:32) And then my mom came to pick me up and she drove me to my grandma's house and then she (25:41) left to go back to the school to help them because she used to work at the school that (25:47) I went to. (25:48) And it was just like really, really confusing because like even down here in Florida, people (25:53) are like, are they going to attack like schools? (25:56) Are they going to attack like places like Disney? (25:59) Are they going to go to the mall? (26:01) Like water? (26:06) For me, I was actually in New York at that time. (26:10) So it was, I was, and I wasn't terribly far from the, from all of the commotion. (26:16) I wasn't in the city. (26:17) I was on Long Island, Nassau County. (26:20) So about 45 minutes out from them, but still fairly close. (26:25) So I could definitely see my mother's. (26:29) Concern. (26:30) Concern, yeah. (26:33) So how do you think the attacks impacted you? (26:40) Oof. (26:43) I would definitely say it made me more on, not on the edge or discerning, but more aware (26:55) of my surroundings and just to keep a watchful eye on what's going on around me versus just, (27:03) you know, willy-nilly not paying attention, you know, try to look out for people's actions (27:10) and stuff. (27:11) And because you never know, you know, and if, I mean, also kind of coupled with the (27:16) fact that I want to be a Sherlock Holmes and look for clues and things, you know, and prevent (27:21) things from happening. (27:22) But yeah, I would say just, you know, trying to be more discerned, more discernment. (27:30) For me, it gives me more empathy to other countries who are going through this on a (27:35) daily, weekly, monthly, yearly thing. (27:38) Like what's, what's going on with Ukraine? (27:40) It's been like, what, two years now? (27:43) What's going on with the Palestine people? (27:47) Palestinians, sorry, not Palestine people. (27:49) I'm sorry. (27:49) Palestinians. (27:51) Like people in Palestine. (27:52) Yeah. (27:53) My heart goes out to them. (27:55) Like, I wish I could do something like scream from the rooftops and just like shake people (28:04) and be like, babies are starving and you're fine with it. (28:09) And it's not okay. (28:11) Why do you think the 9-11 conspiracy theories persist? (28:15) Like despite official reports? (28:20) Because the government lies to us. (28:22) That was exactly what I was thinking when I read that. (28:25) The government lies to us all the time. (28:28) Because people lie and people are imperfect and also people are dumb. (28:32) So you don't believe anything that the government tells them. (28:36) You give them a slight, you know, something that makes sense and it could just all be (28:41) a fib story. (28:43) And it's like people hop on to like one ideology or one politician and just like ride that (28:51) so hard. (28:52) And it's like, that's okay for you, but you need to also think for yourself and grow and (28:59) your opinions can change on the information that you're given. (29:02) Yeah. (29:03) Like. (29:04) It's called seeing the whole picture. (29:07) Yeah. (29:07) Getting the facts. (29:09) Yeah. (29:10) Well, we love you guys. (29:13) Do you love them, Josh? (29:14) I love you guys too. (29:16) And gals. (29:17) And everybody in between. (29:19) She's days and gays. (29:21) She's days and gays. (29:23) Stay weird, y'all, okay? (29:25) Bye. (29:34) We want to thank you for tuning in. (29:36) You can find us on all your favorite social platforms by searching ConspiriWeird, posting (29:41) photos and details from each episode. 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